“... 23andMe - once a $6 billion biotech star - filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, leaving 15 million DNA samples in limbo... What happens to your DNA when the company collapses?”
What happens to your DNA when the company crashes? Well, what happens to your DNA BEFORE any such hideous company crashes? Giving away deeply personal and intrusive data to damned strangers with bad intent – when is that ever a good thing to do? In other words, What The Hell Were You Thinking? (Of course, to do such a thing is NOT thinking at all).
Any kind of biometric scanning is a Deep State’s Snoops-and-Peeping Toms dream. A colossally bad idea for everyone else. Whatever the hell happened to people’s desire for privacy and keeping important personal matters out of the Government’s view and god-knows how many other third parties with bad intent that such information is sold off to.
“... the technical capability to engineer pathogens with ethnic selectivity exists - CRISPR and synthetic biology make it theoretically possible...”.
If anyone doesn’t think that the weaponization of our DNA has not been going on for along time is a fool. Remember, the damned (real) Nazi scientists were at this kind in inhumane atrocity 80 years ago. And a lot of those evil bastards ended up where? Why in the Good Old Land Of Freedom USA! Try to remember that when you wear your Flag T-shirt and watch Chinese fireworks this Fourth of July. While eating hot dogs and drinks with too much sugar so you can get real sick and need lots of overpriced and predatory medical care in one of the unhealthiest and most obese nations on the Earth. See what that does to your DNA footprint, too.
“... your DNA treasure could become someone else's jackpot.”
That was the entire intention of this program from hell. There never was any real good intent behind it. To say it was a Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing doesn’t do the level of damage and bad intent properly. However bad you think this program might be — you can believe it is actually much worse. And this will be seen in the coming years when we see weaponized DNA unleashed upon the World by the Dark Forces among us.
Giving up your DNA is a bit like selling off your Soul. Which millions of people appear to have little to absolutely no problem doing at all.
No wonder the Devil always is shown as smiling so much. At least the Devil is smart enough to keep his DNA record away from everyone else.
Interesting that the giant globalist HSBC bank ad is from 2013. Google invested $3.9 million in 23andMe autosomal DNA testing, along with Genentech, New Enterprise Associates, and Mohr Davidow Ventures in 2007.
Launched in late 2007 with a huge ad campaign in US, expanded to 50 other countries in 2008. Enormous marketing and pr...
"Your DNA isn’t just info - it’s you: your roots, your health risks, quirks tied to your family."
ok... that would be a problem... but... what if it's not?
What if the idea of a "genetic blueprint" or the idea of "selfish genes" sitting at the controls of every organism, or the idea that genes actually "control" anything, is simply not true?
If that were so, then these would be "controllers" (of whose ASPIRATION to exert control over everyone and everything, I have no doubt) have acquired a bunch of illusory mist, which is not, in fact, going to help them gain what they seek.
To aspire is not at all the same as to acquire... ;)
This is, at the very least, a real possibility, one due to what many see as a wrong turn taken sometime back, in biology, to view genes/DNA as (possibly) way more significant than they might, in fact, be.
The science behind DNA is shaky to put it mildly. What was once thought to be the Holy Grail of biological systems, has turned out to be a big fat nothing burger. This is similar to so many other technology sells: As long as people believe it's legit, ts has value. When people find out the truth, the whole scam implodes.
Credible researchers now question the very existence of an actual double-helix like strand of biological matter. As has been shown over and over, these so-called DNA-companies, cannot even identify whether a sample is human or dog for example, so is this data really valuable?
During the covid debacle, I received a letter from a university hospital where I'd taken a PCR test, asking for permission to use the DNA from my test. I suspect that many less honest organizations were illegally harvesting peoples' DNA during that period.
Josh, Glad you picked this up. I have been preaching (you haven't heard it because it hasn't come up) about the idiocy of sending your DNA to ANYONE (other than in pursuit of a particular clinical condition in conjunction with your actual health care) and in allowing them to keep and use it, which almost everyone did.
You are correct -- there is virtually NO use for your DNA short a particular probe for a particular problem. The idiocy about "37% Scottish" or (like Pocahontas) 0.0001% American Indian was always ridiculous...just a way top scam people.
The poor souls that send their swabs in do not know what will happen (nor do I) but it is not going to be good. And do you really believe that if you hit "delete" (if you even can) that it will be deleted? Those rules all change in bankruptcy anyway.
This could always be confidently expected because it was always clear that collecting DNA would have no business case since there is nothing "good" to be done with it. Another of those "told you so" areas about which no one ever seems to react appropriately.
Thanks Doc. I completely agree that the ancestry marketing was always the bait, not the business model. The bankruptcy just confirms what many of skeptics suspected from day one. It does make me wonder about all those PCR tests too - millions more samples collected and processed. Same risks?
Always made me shake my head. Stumped. WHY do folks do these supremely stupid things? Privacy, people. Once it’s gone, it’s gone for good. I had to basically threaten my siblings and family, told them that if one of them did this, it exposed ALL of us and they did not have that right. If they ever do that and I find out, that people get’s my boot. I will never speak to them again. They will be dead to me. (But I still will not ever call them a “person”.)
A story that's similar to this one is, of course, the data grab by DOGE agents at Treasury, and almost certainly in other parts of the government.
Catherine Fitts highlighted Naomi Wolf's substack article on this, and I don't recall thinking that Naomi had gotten any significant thing wrong, but rhetorically the piece could have been much better. She took a long time to get to the heart of the matter, and along the way her rhetoric was too mild, almost apologetic at times. That said, her article was important and valuable.
As we all know, data is not like gold. Someone takes your gold, you don't have it any more. Data can be copied and that's usually what happens. The plunder of data has been going on for a long time, but it's escalating dramatically now. How the blackmail dynamic works in this environment is a big question. How did the new Trump administration get all those appointees confirmed, with only one or two failures? Just a few months ago this would have seemed absolutely outlandish.
Continuing research on the topic Naomi addressed, and better rhetoric, would be a significant public service.
I appreciate the comment. I wrote something that I believe - at least partially - addresses these concerns about data collection - regardless of who's doing the collecting. Like you, I see this escalating data grab as part of a larger pattern where power shifts form rather than truly dissolving.
With regard to Naomi Wolf, I read her piece. She and Catherine are among the few public voices maintaining consistent principles regardless of political winds. Their ability to analyze these issues without falling into partisan traps is exactly what we need more of right now.
The crucial point isn't just what data is being collected, but recognizing that the systems of control continue evolving while maintaining the same fundamental aims. Whether it's genetic data at 23andMe or government agencies copying files, the pattern remains: our most personal information becoming someone else's asset or weapon.
This is why I keep emphasizing pattern recognition over picking sides in (what I believe are manufactured) dialectics - the war isn't left vs. right, but about preserving human sovereignty/dignity in an age where reality itself is increasingly engineered.
How many people realize that those alleged "nasal swabs" were not swabs at all but biopsies and whoever did it has your DNA. Why were biopsies done rather than swabs, which simply passes a Q tip over the surface of your mucous membrane. The answer is that viruses are only replication competent when inside cells. A swab over the surface of a cell will not pick up virus or viral antigens. You need cells and that is what this technique did. And once they (whoever they are) have your cells they have your DNA to do as they please.
It’s not just the globalists, though. I was in labs from coast to coast at universities to determine the overhead rate for federally sponsored research, often suited up like an astronaut. It’s our own scientists creating the stuff of nightmares and has been for decades. Perhaps longer. People have no idea what they have been funding with their tax dollars when it comes to research. I saw a lot of it and cannot even begin to guess what has been developed in the private sector or in the BSL labs America operates abroad.
You're right, though university labs are just another tentacle of the same apparatus. The lines between academia, corporations, and intelligence agencies are completely blurred. Look at the connections between 23andMe, Google, Palantir and Stanford - it's all one interlocking system drawing from the same funding sources and serving the same masters. My sense is that the "private sector" vs "government research" distinction is largely theater at this point.
No amount of social pressure is worth caving to this social engineering.
Sadder yet are the people who believe the "accuracy" of this "testing".
It's all a ruse for data harvesting.
Great post Josh, thanks for the mention. Will share with my audience too!
Thanks Efrat!
The veil is lifting on the crimes of the elite.
Apocalypse Now
“... 23andMe - once a $6 billion biotech star - filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, leaving 15 million DNA samples in limbo... What happens to your DNA when the company collapses?”
What happens to your DNA when the company crashes? Well, what happens to your DNA BEFORE any such hideous company crashes? Giving away deeply personal and intrusive data to damned strangers with bad intent – when is that ever a good thing to do? In other words, What The Hell Were You Thinking? (Of course, to do such a thing is NOT thinking at all).
Any kind of biometric scanning is a Deep State’s Snoops-and-Peeping Toms dream. A colossally bad idea for everyone else. Whatever the hell happened to people’s desire for privacy and keeping important personal matters out of the Government’s view and god-knows how many other third parties with bad intent that such information is sold off to.
“... the technical capability to engineer pathogens with ethnic selectivity exists - CRISPR and synthetic biology make it theoretically possible...”.
If anyone doesn’t think that the weaponization of our DNA has not been going on for along time is a fool. Remember, the damned (real) Nazi scientists were at this kind in inhumane atrocity 80 years ago. And a lot of those evil bastards ended up where? Why in the Good Old Land Of Freedom USA! Try to remember that when you wear your Flag T-shirt and watch Chinese fireworks this Fourth of July. While eating hot dogs and drinks with too much sugar so you can get real sick and need lots of overpriced and predatory medical care in one of the unhealthiest and most obese nations on the Earth. See what that does to your DNA footprint, too.
“... your DNA treasure could become someone else's jackpot.”
That was the entire intention of this program from hell. There never was any real good intent behind it. To say it was a Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing doesn’t do the level of damage and bad intent properly. However bad you think this program might be — you can believe it is actually much worse. And this will be seen in the coming years when we see weaponized DNA unleashed upon the World by the Dark Forces among us.
Giving up your DNA is a bit like selling off your Soul. Which millions of people appear to have little to absolutely no problem doing at all.
No wonder the Devil always is shown as smiling so much. At least the Devil is smart enough to keep his DNA record away from everyone else.
Interesting that the giant globalist HSBC bank ad is from 2013. Google invested $3.9 million in 23andMe autosomal DNA testing, along with Genentech, New Enterprise Associates, and Mohr Davidow Ventures in 2007.
Launched in late 2007 with a huge ad campaign in US, expanded to 50 other countries in 2008. Enormous marketing and pr...
You're connecting all the right dots.
"Your DNA isn’t just info - it’s you: your roots, your health risks, quirks tied to your family."
ok... that would be a problem... but... what if it's not?
What if the idea of a "genetic blueprint" or the idea of "selfish genes" sitting at the controls of every organism, or the idea that genes actually "control" anything, is simply not true?
If that were so, then these would be "controllers" (of whose ASPIRATION to exert control over everyone and everything, I have no doubt) have acquired a bunch of illusory mist, which is not, in fact, going to help them gain what they seek.
To aspire is not at all the same as to acquire... ;)
This is, at the very least, a real possibility, one due to what many see as a wrong turn taken sometime back, in biology, to view genes/DNA as (possibly) way more significant than they might, in fact, be.
Be well, stay free!
The science behind DNA is shaky to put it mildly. What was once thought to be the Holy Grail of biological systems, has turned out to be a big fat nothing burger. This is similar to so many other technology sells: As long as people believe it's legit, ts has value. When people find out the truth, the whole scam implodes.
Credible researchers now question the very existence of an actual double-helix like strand of biological matter. As has been shown over and over, these so-called DNA-companies, cannot even identify whether a sample is human or dog for example, so is this data really valuable?
I doubt it is.
I wonder where all that DNA material collected on nasal swabs during COVID went to?
Great question.
During the covid debacle, I received a letter from a university hospital where I'd taken a PCR test, asking for permission to use the DNA from my test. I suspect that many less honest organizations were illegally harvesting peoples' DNA during that period.
Yep!
Josh, Glad you picked this up. I have been preaching (you haven't heard it because it hasn't come up) about the idiocy of sending your DNA to ANYONE (other than in pursuit of a particular clinical condition in conjunction with your actual health care) and in allowing them to keep and use it, which almost everyone did.
You are correct -- there is virtually NO use for your DNA short a particular probe for a particular problem. The idiocy about "37% Scottish" or (like Pocahontas) 0.0001% American Indian was always ridiculous...just a way top scam people.
The poor souls that send their swabs in do not know what will happen (nor do I) but it is not going to be good. And do you really believe that if you hit "delete" (if you even can) that it will be deleted? Those rules all change in bankruptcy anyway.
This could always be confidently expected because it was always clear that collecting DNA would have no business case since there is nothing "good" to be done with it. Another of those "told you so" areas about which no one ever seems to react appropriately.
Thanks Doc. I completely agree that the ancestry marketing was always the bait, not the business model. The bankruptcy just confirms what many of skeptics suspected from day one. It does make me wonder about all those PCR tests too - millions more samples collected and processed. Same risks?
Always made me shake my head. Stumped. WHY do folks do these supremely stupid things? Privacy, people. Once it’s gone, it’s gone for good. I had to basically threaten my siblings and family, told them that if one of them did this, it exposed ALL of us and they did not have that right. If they ever do that and I find out, that people get’s my boot. I will never speak to them again. They will be dead to me. (But I still will not ever call them a “person”.)
eye opener... thank you
Coming from you that means a lot. Thanks for reading.
A story that's similar to this one is, of course, the data grab by DOGE agents at Treasury, and almost certainly in other parts of the government.
Catherine Fitts highlighted Naomi Wolf's substack article on this, and I don't recall thinking that Naomi had gotten any significant thing wrong, but rhetorically the piece could have been much better. She took a long time to get to the heart of the matter, and along the way her rhetoric was too mild, almost apologetic at times. That said, her article was important and valuable.
As we all know, data is not like gold. Someone takes your gold, you don't have it any more. Data can be copied and that's usually what happens. The plunder of data has been going on for a long time, but it's escalating dramatically now. How the blackmail dynamic works in this environment is a big question. How did the new Trump administration get all those appointees confirmed, with only one or two failures? Just a few months ago this would have seemed absolutely outlandish.
Continuing research on the topic Naomi addressed, and better rhetoric, would be a significant public service.
https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/the-sack-of-rome-elon-musks-digital
I appreciate the comment. I wrote something that I believe - at least partially - addresses these concerns about data collection - regardless of who's doing the collecting. Like you, I see this escalating data grab as part of a larger pattern where power shifts form rather than truly dissolving.
https://stylman.substack.com/p/the-pattern-beneath-continued
With regard to Naomi Wolf, I read her piece. She and Catherine are among the few public voices maintaining consistent principles regardless of political winds. Their ability to analyze these issues without falling into partisan traps is exactly what we need more of right now.
The crucial point isn't just what data is being collected, but recognizing that the systems of control continue evolving while maintaining the same fundamental aims. Whether it's genetic data at 23andMe or government agencies copying files, the pattern remains: our most personal information becoming someone else's asset or weapon.
This is why I keep emphasizing pattern recognition over picking sides in (what I believe are manufactured) dialectics - the war isn't left vs. right, but about preserving human sovereignty/dignity in an age where reality itself is increasingly engineered.
How many people realize that those alleged "nasal swabs" were not swabs at all but biopsies and whoever did it has your DNA. Why were biopsies done rather than swabs, which simply passes a Q tip over the surface of your mucous membrane. The answer is that viruses are only replication competent when inside cells. A swab over the surface of a cell will not pick up virus or viral antigens. You need cells and that is what this technique did. And once they (whoever they are) have your cells they have your DNA to do as they please.
John 14:27
It’s not just the globalists, though. I was in labs from coast to coast at universities to determine the overhead rate for federally sponsored research, often suited up like an astronaut. It’s our own scientists creating the stuff of nightmares and has been for decades. Perhaps longer. People have no idea what they have been funding with their tax dollars when it comes to research. I saw a lot of it and cannot even begin to guess what has been developed in the private sector or in the BSL labs America operates abroad.
You're right, though university labs are just another tentacle of the same apparatus. The lines between academia, corporations, and intelligence agencies are completely blurred. Look at the connections between 23andMe, Google, Palantir and Stanford - it's all one interlocking system drawing from the same funding sources and serving the same masters. My sense is that the "private sector" vs "government research" distinction is largely theater at this point.
Paperclip may be the most important American initiative that almost no citizens know anything about.